webpro 31 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 How can we contact him ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Net66 54 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 email me! andy@netodex.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
webpro 31 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ok thanks. As soon as i'm ready i will let you know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 78 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Starting at $97 for the "Protect Gold" about 1,5 year ago the current price at $595 is FAR from realistic. At that pricing you really should consider other software protection on the market that is harder to crack and in use by bigger companies. Seriously Andy, your "Protect Gold" goes from $97 to $297 to $595.What's next?$10K? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob The Builder 62 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Starting at $97 for the "Protect Gold" about 1,5 year ago the current price at $595 is FAR from realistic. At that pricing you really should consider other software protection on the market that is harder to crack and in use by bigger companies. Seriously Andy, your "Protect Gold" goes from $97 to $297 to $595.What's next?$10K? It isn't updated either, considering it is a kludge put together with ebook software it is very overpriced. Only thing, it is the only thing that really works right now. Commercial software packages don't really work. I've tried many of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 78 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 It isn't updated either, considering it is a kludge put together with ebook software it is very overpriced. Only thing, it is the only thing that really works right now. Commercial software packages don't really work. I've tried many of them. I'll contact a well known company to try their software and licensing system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob The Builder 62 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'll contact a well known company to try their software and licensing system. The problem is the way Ubot is done. It is .net but it uses an obfuscation system so .net packagers will not work as they cannot spawn ubot files properly. If you just wrap it (like Protect Gold does) and just drop it in the file system, you need to put protection inside Ubot code to interface with the wrapper, or someone can just yank the file off the file system and by pass your protection. Almost all the commercial products do this, but they only do so in Visual Studio code (like C#), none of them have this protection code available in Ubot syntax. Ubot is very limited in what it can do, and most of the protection systems couldn't be replicated in Ubot anyway. I looked at a lot of solutions, and tried many ways to embed ubot into a C# application and spawn it without writing to the operating system the file. C# just cannot start the main class in a Ubot file without shedding the obfuscation module. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 78 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 The problem is the way Ubot is done. It is .net but it uses an obfuscation system so .net packagers will not work as they cannot spawn ubot files properly. If you just wrap it (like Protect Gold does) and just drop it in the file system, you need to put protection inside Ubot code to interface with the wrapper, or someone can just yank the file off the file system and by pass your protection. Almost all the commercial products do this, but they only do so in Visual Studio code (like C#), none of them have this protection code available in Ubot syntax. Ubot is very limited in what it can do, and most of the protection systems couldn't be replicated in Ubot anyway. I looked at a lot of solutions, and tried many ways to embed ubot into a C# application and spawn it without writing to the operating system the file. C# just cannot start the main class in a Ubot file without shedding the obfuscation module. Thanks for your input, but i'll test some systems first because $595 for a "protect gold" (which is almost the same price as i paid for a uBot Studio Dev license) makes no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob The Builder 62 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thanks for your input, but i'll test some systems first because $595 for a "protect gold" (which is almost the same price as i paid for a uBot Studio Dev license) makes no sense. It is worth it if it was a well made protection system and you sold a lot of apps. Unfortunately it isn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Net66 54 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Seriously Andy, your "Protect Gold" goes from $97 to $297 to $595.What's next?$10K? Good idea. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blumi40 222 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 i realy dont understand why the sethteam is not offer a service for ubot like that? i mean, seth is always looking for a biz to make money with...like we saw on the botbank and the horrable pricepolitics on it.so here is a way to do more money with ubot. offer a protectionsystem inside ubot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob The Builder 62 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 i realy dont understand why the sethteam is not offer a service for ubot like that? i mean, seth is always looking for a biz to make money with...like we saw on the botbank and the horrable pricepolitics on it.so here is a way to do more money with ubot. offer a protectionsystem inside ubot. I spoke with them in the past about this and the only protection they had in their mind was to offer it tied to the bot store but I think that's not happening either. If the market was bigger I'd offer something myself but it just isn't worth the time involved to sell a couple of copies. Unfortunately there are no good solutions. That's why Andy gets away charging $600 for an ebook wrapper with no support or updates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Praney Behl 314 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Good idea. Andy Hah! For that price I can go jv Andy, I can build some mods and we'll be RIiICH! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pftg4 102 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 That's why Andy gets away charging $600 for an ebook wrapper with no support or updates. i have dealt with andy a few times and this comment is so far from the truth support has been very fast and top notch nice guy to do business with Pftg4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Praney Behl 314 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 i have dealt with andy a few times and this comment is so far from the truth support has been very fast and top notch nice guy to do business with Pftg4 I can second that for sure. Unless something is wrong Andy responds pretty instantly. A-1 guy to do business with. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 78 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Just an alert.... http://www.ubotstudio.com/forum/index.php?/topic/9578-how-do-you-all-protect-your-compiled-bots-for-selling/page__view__findpost__p__49861 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Net66 54 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 That's an old post. Black hatters are always going to try to crack security, on occasions they will succeed and we then plug the gaps. A patch to sort this was released within a few days. Myself and a couple of associates monitor all the BH forums. The truth is... that's why this isn't sold cheap anymore. 1) A lot of time is put in keeping track of those BH groups and what they are doing. 2) When it was cheap the Blackhatters were just buying it to try to make it easier on themselves. I don't think them having it helped them a lot but I soon figured out one group had co-op'd to buy it and were getting details of anything I did as soon as it was done. There is a copy of Protect Gold floating about for download on some of the BH forums. Might be worth keeping in mind that I wrote the "cracked" version and got it put on there and I would strongly advise against using it Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kreatus (Ubot Ninja) 422 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Andy any plan updating protectgold any time soon?Im glad I bought this half of the price before. I cant believe its almost $600 now..BTW protectgold is still the best in the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kreatus (Ubot Ninja) 422 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Few suggestions: Ability to customize the bg color and add your own logo to license form the user will fill inRedirect the user to a specific url when their copy of the bot expiresLink to download the database on the admin area 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh 37 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've just finished work on a new protection system that does way more than my original Protect66 solution. It's called Protect Gold and you can read about it and see some video demos of it in action on the Protect Gold Web Page I have emailed those who own Protect66 and offered a special upgrade deal, if you are a Protect66 customer and have not recieved that email then contact me and I'll fill you in. Protect Gold not only protects bots but gives you a way of doing time limited trials, auto updates and more. Andy Any idea when this new product will be available? http://66th.net/protect-gold-for-ubot-4-x/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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