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I have some questions that I'd love to hear your feedback on, feel free to answer any or all.

 

These are all about developing in Ubot, add as many answers per question as you can think of :)

 

1. What about development is difficult?

2. What frustrates you?

3. What takes too long?

4. What do you think could speed up your development?

5. What do you think could make your development easier?

6. What prevents you from building a certain bot?

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2. What frustrates you?

6. What prevents you from building a certain bot?

 

Bugs and support. For example, i create bug repport:

 

#1037

 

where i give error stack, but developer write:

 

Please go to support.ubotstudio.com and open a ticket there to isolate your issue to a sample script.

 

How i can give source code? I can give additional information how you can reproducing problem, but not source code!

 

I know dozens of bugs in your program, but if this not interesting, why should I waste time?

 

Ok, maybe the problem is in my ticket, but what can you say about other bug reports?

 

FTP?

 

http://tracker.ubotstudio.com/issues/1210(1 year ago)!

Same problem, new ticket: http://tracker.ubotstudio.com/issues/1271(26 day ago!)

 

:) But there are more serious problems. I simply have no desire to report errors, knowing that they will be ignored.

 

 

3. What takes too long?

 

View source code and find elements. No good tool for quick analysis of the elements.

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2. What frustrates you? seeing unresolved bugs submitted long ago in the tracker + false positives + internal browser not detachable + throwing errors without a good reference to the node(s).


3. What takes too long? Ubot releasing an update!


4. What do you think could speed up your development? Maybe smart completion when coding.


6. What prevents you from building a certain bot? getting detected by sites (distill networks).


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5. Auto detect the fields required to fill in... and Ubot studio auto generates all the type text (username, password, email, address, gender) in the node view. If you used before Autofill Magic you will know what I mean. It fill up the form automatically. So if Ubot studio can auto create a bot ??? That's great.. like you click on register account button, then Ubot automatically generate a bot (no need user to code at all).

 

Check this out: http://network.ubotstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic/15866-sell-2017-update-botscriptfast-builds-your-bots-for-you-now-has-regex-http-and-browser-scraper-builder/

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Do you have any courses on Python?
RE consulting, one component of my project that is core, It integrates with a specific 'class' of paid apis, this component would do around 8 functions. The functions are different processes and return the same data results (data structure return is same, different API commands), I need this component to be able to easily integrate with up to 50 of these API services.

That's a lot of repeating. 

There's 2 primary processes for the main process called 'API Update', API Update does 2 functions, each has about 4-8 functions in those former 2. Any tips of architecture for this? Prob will contact about consult for this week or so. 

lucidchart   visualization could be extremely informative for your students, do you use lucidchart?

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Do you have any courses on Python?

RE consulting, one component of my project that is core, It integrates with a specific 'class' of paid apis, this component would do around 8 functions. The functions are different processes and return the same data results (data structure return is same, different API commands), I need this component to be able to easily integrate with up to 50 of these API services.

 

That's a lot of repeating. 

 

There's 2 primary processes for the main process called 'API Update', API Update does 2 functions, each has about 4-8 functions in those former 2. Any tips of architecture for this? Prob will contact about consult for this week or so. 

 

lucidchart   visualization could be extremely informative for your students, do you use lucidchart?

 

No courses on Python sorry. I only use Py in Ubot on rare occasions.

 

It's hard to say without seeing the code but if you are doing a lot of repeating you may be able to use custom commands/functions for the job.

 

I do not use lucidchart but I'll check it out. I sometimes use UML or just a spreadsheet.

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1. What about development is difficult?

 

uBot user base seemed to peak a few years back, forms are slowly dying. This makes finding solutions harder compared to stack and other languages. It also means we have less plugin developers and less financial reason for them to make them. uBot corporate hasn't made any effort in some time platform is slowly dying. 

 

2. What frustrates you?

 

Buy ubot, Buy Pro, Buy Dev, then need to also buy 1k+ worth of plugins and scripts over the years just to make ubot more usable. Ubot seems to have relied this whole time on other people selling plugins to expand its capability and has done very little if anything themselves to expand the program. 

 

Currently trying to look into moving my entire system off meters locker system now and roll my own so i can code sign and look more professional. Ive spent over an hour looking through what i can to figure out if I can make a themed html popup prompt that would give me 2 fields for the user to enter on load. User/Pass. Seems its not possible at all.

 

Basic ubot prompt looks like crap, cant title the prompt, cant change colors,no image bg, no sizing, nothing. Default prompt theme may make people realize i use uBot (thanks dev license). Turns out there are 2 plugins (yours is one) that would even let me change the colors of a prompt and the title. 

 

So that is another $100 I need to spend just to change the color and text of a prompt window. Like seriously in the last 5 years uBot couldn't add this to the program? You seemed to have no trouble doing it. So why i am still paying for updates? This goes for all basic functions that are in plugins and totally missing from uBot. Need to find the first instance of a regex? That will be $100. Thank god for Heopas only plugin that didn't cost $100.

 

3. What takes too long?

 

Seemingly a lot, like the above prompt problem. You never know until you want to try something new that you have never done. 

 

4. What do you think could speed up your development?

 

Not needing to browser the Sell section of the form every very weeks to see what plugin i am missing to do the thing i need ubot to do.

 

5. What do you think could make your development easier?

 

If ubot took a bit of a page from apple (took popular apps added to base OS) at started to add plugins to the code code. Pay them off, only take ones years old, ive got no idea. Do something at least. How about a drop down to make my prompt white at the very least? 

 

Yes i am well aware 6 has exbrowser(lite) in it, but 6 is unstable for now and everyone bought exbrowser because we had to years ago.

 

Need to use (your) ubot launcher to launch each time, but don't know you need one of the plugins before you start or forget which ones contained what commands. Save, close, add plugin, reload.

 

6. What prevents you from building a certain bot?

 

Memory clearing, anti-virus programs, site scraper/bot detection, bit of plugin mess as well now that i have so many.

 

7. What made my development easier?

 

Heopas just added in his latest update the ability to collapse code when in the code viewer. This has saved me extreme amounts of time since it was added. It also serves as a prime example of basic functionality that nearly all code editors have by default. Another thing that ubot couldn't be bothered to add to their program in all these years. I didn't even know it could be possible to add something like that, then one guy in his free time added to the program as a plugin for free.

 

8. What made me fee sick?

 

When i get a new email from seth thinking its something finally about ubot and its him trying to sell me on his newest make money online scheme or his private $4000 class, or his magic upsell templates, or various other non-related crap. Meanwhile normal other people like Hepoas are adding basic functionality to his system.  

 

Edit: I was a bit bothered by not being able to do what i wanted in the program and the idea of needing to possibly pay for more plugins and more scripts adding up to $300 just to try a new license system. So this post came across far more angry than it should have. I do want to say that I still am 100% thankful for uBot and it existing because it enabled me to make a living selling bots/services alone. So the $100 a pop plugins are just part of business. If you were not making money with your bots then i feel most of these features would be totally out of reach to most users.

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Hi BeerNut,

 

Thanks for the reply, you make some good points and actually some of the things that frustrate you I have in the pipeline. Basically, design and licensing related projects and actually you gave me a good idea to add prompt windows into the design one. Another thing you mention about the memory clearing, I'd like to know if you have any bots with rising memory you could show me, or at least just tell me which commands are in it (I could give you a bot to extract them). I have been working on this on the side for some time trying to find the actual root of the problem.

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The main thing - which will speed up development aggressively:

 

As a music producer and working with ableton, my production process went to ULTRAFAST, when i started to use the library.

 

Same thing i am missing here. A ultra easy to use library which works like a breaze.

Just drag N drop the specified and named define into the library and use it in every script i am working - with the ability to edit the code.

The current private bot bank is kind of okeeeeey - but very uncozy to use. I do not see the code (in case i want to change something - which would be 80% of use cases) and the workflow of putting something into the bank is "kind of horrible". 

 

Just a simple "drag my stuff there" and work further on this bot.

Next day, next bot - starting stuff, pull something out from library, edit it and go for it.

 

Another cool thing would be a "bot browser" - where i could go through my bots in a sidebar (like in the botbank) and could import the scripts or tabs to the current project i am working on. In case i did not save it to the mentioned library ;-)

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The main thing - which will speed up development aggressively:

 

As a music producer and working with ableton, my production process went to ULTRAFAST, when i started to use the library.

 

Same thing i am missing here. A ultra easy to use library which works like a breaze.

Just drag N drop the specified and named define into the library and use it in every script i am working - with the ability to edit the code.

The current private bot bank is kind of okeeeeey - but very uncozy to use. I do not see the code (in case i want to change something - which would be 80% of use cases) and the workflow of putting something into the bank is "kind of horrible". 

 

Just a simple "drag my stuff there" and work further on this bot.

Next day, next bot - starting stuff, pull something out from library, edit it and go for it.

 

Another cool thing would be a "bot browser" - where i could go through my bots in a sidebar (like in the botbank) and could import the scripts or tabs to the current project i am working on. In case i did not save it to the mentioned library ;-)

 

Really good ideas, thank you!

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1. What about development is difficult?

 

uBot user base seemed to peak a few years back, forms are slowly dying. This makes finding solutions harder compared to stack and other languages. It also means we have less plugin developers and less financial reason for them to make them. uBot corporate hasn't made any effort in some time platform is slowly dying. 

 

2. What frustrates you?

 

Buy ubot, Buy Pro, Buy Dev, then need to also buy 1k+ worth of plugins and scripts over the years just to make ubot more usable. Ubot seems to have relied this whole time on other people selling plugins to expand its capability and has done very little if anything themselves to expand the program. 

 

Currently trying to look into moving my entire system off meters locker system now and roll my own so i can code sign and look more professional. Ive spent over an hour looking through what i can to figure out if I can make a themed html popup prompt that would give me 2 fields for the user to enter on load. User/Pass. Seems its not possible at all.

 

Basic ubot prompt looks like crap, cant title the prompt, cant change colors,no image bg, no sizing, nothing. Default prompt theme may make people realize i use uBot (thanks dev license). Turns out there are 2 plugins (yours is one) that would even let me change the colors of a prompt and the title. 

 

So that is another $100 I need to spend just to change the color and text of a prompt window. Like seriously in the last 5 years uBot couldn't add this to the program? You seemed to have no trouble doing it. So why i am still paying for updates? This goes for all basic functions that are in plugins and totally missing from uBot. Need to find the first instance of a regex? That will be $100. Thank god for Heopas only plugin that didn't cost $100.

 

3. What takes too long?

 

Seemingly a lot, like the above prompt problem. You never know until you want to try something new that you have never done. 

 

4. What do you think could speed up your development?

 

Not needing to browser the Sell section of the form every very weeks to see what plugin i am missing to do the thing i need ubot to do.

 

5. What do you think could make your development easier?

 

If ubot took a bit of a page from apple (took popular apps added to base OS) at started to add plugins to the code code. Pay them off, only take ones years old, ive got no idea. Do something at least. How about a drop down to make my prompt white at the very least? 

 

Yes i am well aware 6 has exbrowser(lite) in it, but 6 is unstable for now and everyone bought exbrowser because we had to years ago.

 

Need to use (your) ubot launcher to launch each time, but don't know you need one of the plugins before you start or forget which ones contained what commands. Save, close, add plugin, reload.

 

6. What prevents you from building a certain bot?

 

Memory clearing, anti-virus programs, site scraper/bot detection, bit of plugin mess as well now that i have so many.

 

7. What made my development easier?

 

Heopas just added in his latest update the ability to collapse code when in the code viewer. This has saved me extreme amounts of time since it was added. It also serves as a prime example of basic functionality that nearly all code editors have by default. Another thing that ubot couldn't be bothered to add to their program in all these years. I didn't even know it could be possible to add something like that, then one guy in his free time added to the program as a plugin for free.

 

8. What made me fee sick?

 

When i get a new email from seth thinking its something finally about ubot and its him trying to sell me on his newest make money online scheme or his private $4000 class, or his magic upsell templates, or various other non-related crap. Meanwhile normal other people like Hepoas are adding basic functionality to his system.  

 

Edit: I was a bit bothered by not being able to do what i wanted in the program and the idea of needing to possibly pay for more plugins and more scripts adding up to $300 just to try a new license system. So this post came across far more angry than it should have. I do want to say that I still am 100% thankful for uBot and it existing because it enabled me to make a living selling bots/services alone. So the $100 a pop plugins are just part of business. If you were not making money with your bots then i feel most of these features would be totally out of reach to most users.

 

Thanks :)

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Buy ubot, Buy Pro, Buy Dev, then need to also buy 1k+ worth of plugins and scripts over the years just to make ubot more usable

 that is problem of ubot , it lacks of many things for advanced members . 

For beginner , it is enough good to starting

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