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#136112 Antivirus Issue Getting Worse?

Posted by stever on 30 October 2018 - 02:15 AM

Well that started quite a conversation - thank you all for your input.

I haven't tried the wrapping approach, and it's yet more investment from third parties on top of an already expensive product whose developers don't seem to acknowledge there's a problem. It's a pity there isn't much in the way of competition for Ubot, because markets have a habit of resolving indifference and poor customer service. 


Personally I think there's much to praise about Ubot, but the lack of concern about this issue (and also the crippleware philosophy behind the product variants) only goes to highlight Ubot's culture, which presumably comes from the top. And as long as there's nothing else out there better to draw customers away, they can do what they d***-well like and we'll just have to put up with it. It certainly doesn't engender loyalty, which can have unexpected downsides.


But come the revolution it'll be a different story...

#136055 Antivirus Issue Getting Worse?

Posted by stever on 25 October 2018 - 01:49 PM

Thanks for the comments, and apologies if I came over as angry. Not angry, just frustrated. Buddy, thank you for your comments: Virustotal was acquired by Google and is very well-known among developers. I'm not one but I've worked with plenty.


But discussing Virustotal and whether it's free/trustworthy etc is to miss the point. How many pieces of professional software do you have on your PC? I have hundreds. How many of them trigger Microsoft Windows AV warnings? In my case none, except Ubot programs. All of them get eventually flagged, and have to be manually excluded from quarantine, and every time Windows 10 gets an update, you have to start again. It's a royal pain. So not just Virustotal - even the host OS that Ubot runs on doesn't like it!


You say you advise the AV companies - well you must be doing something wrong - because nothing else on my PC has this issue. You're suggesting that if I  know of a better process, I should share it, but not to blame Ubot. Well, heck, why not blame Ubot? It's not my area of expertise to figure out how to stop Ubot programs triggering AV warnings.  I'm just a customer who's shelled out a decent amount of cash on a product that has a problem and the product owner shows no interest in fixing it - he just blames the AV companies. The question for Ubot is: how come every other piece of pro software you buy doesn't have this problem, just Ubot? I don't need or want a technical answer -  this can't be insoluble - it's just not a priority is it?

#136019 Antivirus Issue Getting Worse?

Posted by stever on 23 October 2018 - 01:12 PM

I am utterly fed up with this persistent issue, which seems to be getting worse. The last time I ran a compiled bot through Virustotal, there were around 6 or 7 virus warnings. This is what came back on my latest bot: 15/66. It's utterly ridiculous. It's all very well for Seth and his team to create fancy new versions of Ubot at professional level prices, but if they can't fix the basics - and this is one of them, then what's the point? The people I sell to use Virustotal as a basic check so you're starting on the back foot before you even open your mouth. I have resorted to creating other products, with Ubot programs thrown in as sweeteners because I just can't sell them with this issue. Sorry for the rant people.



#133371 Unresponsive Webpage

Posted by stever on 04 March 2018 - 09:17 AM

Thanks and belated apologies for taking so long to say thank you. Ubot support said they had problems with this page as well, so there's no hope of getting it fixed any time soon. I found another website that does much the same thing so didn't need to use the kind offer. Thank you again.

#128538 Saving Download To File

Posted by stever on 29 April 2017 - 05:06 AM

I'll answer my own question: works perfectly with Chrome 21 but not 49. Strange.

#128161 Reasons Why Table-Scraping Misses Items Out?

Posted by stever on 08 April 2017 - 01:28 AM

@deliter - yes, you guessed right! Sorry, such a rookie mistake. Anyway - that fixed it perfectly.

Brilliant forum - thank you for all your help!

#127604 Newbie Question

Posted by stever on 07 March 2017 - 02:42 PM

Follow up comment: that answer was so very helpful. It took me a while to understand what was going on (no exposure to regex before now) but with some research and plodding through I finally got it, and now have a working bot. More importantly, I get the principle and have been able to make a few other bots with the same idea. Thanks again!