malefic 48 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Last couple of bots I have put together are coming back clean by Virus Total, a site that normally gives 2 or 3 virus alerts per bots. Have you guys actually made AV companies realise that the bots don't contain virii or have you changed something with the compiler? Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Legend 181 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 That's encouraging... I sure hope Norton stops rejecting us... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anonym 53 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I use AVG Free and that's ok now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rusty 0 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 from what I observed, AV software are always detecting Bots/ Keyloggers etc as a threat. I don't know what they are trying to achieve on this. I just add the program the the trust list to fix the issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB 255 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 It's really unknown to me exactly what it is, but I do know that every company I have approached with the issue acknowledged it was a false positive. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LoWrIdErTJ - BotGuru 904 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I honestly think that it comes down to usage. And AV company's have a rating scale, of the number of people actively using a software, and the more and more users that use it, and ok the software as safe builds there database on that program further for it to be white-listed as trust worthy. lets face it.. AV company's have no way to break down some of the encryption on a lot of software out there, and guarantee they cant tell what type of software something is by its name. Only by what it does. A bot mimics interaction with a web page, by either moving a mouse, or performing actions. The AV wouldn't be able to tell if it was human or automated. Calling it a backdoor, spyware, malware, tracking, etc... is a HUGE false positive and the developer that programmed that bit of code to the AV should be slapped for falsely making accusations on a legitimate program. But be it that the AV company's want to be proclaimed as a trust worthy company that can keep you safe from everything (HAHA) they red flag anything new, and never before seen until it has enough users using it to be listed as trust worthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anonym 53 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Maybe so, but it's really good that the UBot staff continues to try to whitelist Ubot bots. I believe many people, with few/low or obsolete IT skills, will not install software that is detected as threats. It doesn't matter if people can whitelist/trustlist them manually, because such people don't know how to do that anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB 255 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Maybe so, but it's really good that the UBot staff continues to try to whitelist Ubot bots. I believe many people, with few/low or obsolete IT skills, will not install software that is detected as threats. It doesn't matter if people can whitelist/trustlist them manually, because such people don't know how to do that anyway. I agree, but unfortunately we are at their mercy as to whether or not they decide to make any changes on their end...they all say they are going to and then we just end up bugging them for months...some do and others just blow it off...it's a shame. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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