well i hope the Ubot guys really consider a database integration in Ubot version 4.0 The owner of TBS thomas belknap is a a very rude person... i dealt with him earlier and had couple of presale question for him before i make my purchasing decision of getting his product and at one instance he burst in my face for no reason whatsoever... thomas might be a brilliant programmer but he seems just a very egocentric and unprofessional individual. So i let go of his software and cross my fingers that UBOT will kick TBS ass! cheers, Ziad