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Brutal

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  1. Hi guys,

     

    I hit a wall and need some help...

     

    I have a text area in my gui ... the associated variable is: #ShowMyText

     

    What I want to achieve is that every time I run a certain define, (the define is named: ReadySetGo) I want it to scroll that text area to the bottom.

     

    Any ideas/examples on how to do this?

  2. I have a few defines that I use in all of my bots, each define requires small modifications, like software name, version number, update url and so on.

     

    So I created a bot that allows me to input that information and run it and it returns a text file with all defines properly formatted for the new program that I can just paste into the code view.

     

    I compiled it and keep it on my desktop for easy access.

  3. With the help of HelloInsomnia I was able to identify and overcome the issue. In my case, it was a simple matter of the computer time being set to a very different time than the actual time. Once I reset the time on the target vps, everything started working perfectly.

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  4. Here is one that I haven't run into before.

     

    I created/released a bot ... works fine for 90% of users, the other 10% have issues.

     

    So I decided to do some testing.

     

    I provide a vps service, so i created a couple of virtual desktops on my server.

     

    On one of the vps accounts the program works flawlessly.

     

    On another account (on same server) it continually fails at a certain point.

     

    There is zero firewall/antivirus or any other security on either machine.

     

    I have latest .Net version on both vps's

     

    Any ideas what I might be missing that is breaking the software on one of those?

     

  5. John you really didn't give us (the community) much information to work from.

     

    Put in your existing code snippets and it will be easier for more advanced users to help you get on the right track.

     

     

    Without knowing more - I would say create a define for each of the different upload requirements, and then run those defines inline or in threads

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  6. Pash has a plugin that does that... it will click main buttons... run, stop, pause for you thereby negating the need for defines if you do not want them.

     

     

    Additionally, you could always create a bot that uses advanced shell onload, and that advanced shell opens/starts your target bot... that is part of the stealth upgrades we have now.

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  7. Hey Kev thanks for the reply.

     

    Yes, I use actualinstaller.... and I wasn't thinking about that when I made my post.

     

    I expect that the installer will cause the av to fire because, it checks the users .net version and will open a webpage if the user doesn't have the right version. So basically it will do the same as ubot does as far as causing av to trigger.

     

    I'll keep thinking on this and see if I come up with any other suitable methods to try.

  8. Lately I have been aggravated about false positives. Don't get me wrong, my buyer base is pretty solid so I don't get many complaints, but it is always a sore spot for new buyers who do not yet know me.

     

    So recently I have noticed that my av fires when I manually open my target exe file, but if the same file is opened using a shell command, it doesn't trigger the av.

     

    So, for the next program I release I plan to make an exe using winautomation that does nothing more than run a shell command to open my actual target ubot program.

     

    I don't pretend to understand why it is working this way for me or if it will work the same for others.

     

    What I do know is that when you initially run any ubot exe, the exe checks to see if it has proper files from ubots server while/before the program is loading.

     

    This is clearly what causes the false positive on the various av programs, but I have no clue why it only triggers av when it is being loaded manually as opposed to being loaded via shell command.

     

    Anyway it seems like a worthwhile test just to see if I get a lower volume of support requests regarding antivirus programs through the course of the launch.

     

    If (and it is a big IF) this works, then it would effectively shutdown the whole false positive issue.

     

    I'll post the results here once it all plays out if anyone has interest in the final outcome.

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  9. Proposed Class Action Suit Against anti-virus companies - We could include all major anti-virus providers.

     

    Something like this takes planning, action, and the right kind of lawyer.

     

    I am not saying that I have the skillset to put this together, but I am betting that someone here does possess the requisite skills.

     

    What does the suit attack?

     

    Pretty much every bot we make is flagged by various av programs. We constantly fight a battle in trying to educate people that our programs are clean and safe.

     

    This means that we spend time doing it, which means it costs us money to do (monetary loss)

     

    Additionally, because of those so called "false positives" our business reputation is damaged... Meaning that people choose not to do business with us because of said false positive (additional monetary loss with certainty of future losses because that buyer will never buy from us again).

     

    So, we are able to show that real/tangible damage is being caused with a resulting financial loss.

     

    So that should cover the first prong of a suit of this type... Is there tangible loss. Yes there is.

     

    Next prong - Is this loss being caused by intentional misrepresentation/accusation,  neglect, gross negligence. - Yes, it is.

     

    The argument - The av company has for nothing more than expediance and a self-perceived safety net chosen to automatically flag certain actions as dangerous without anything more than an assumption based upon old/outdated data.

     

    In other words, the av company makes a consious decision to not actually check any given program for actual malicious code but rather to simply make the accusation and let the customer and the software developer hash it out. (a.k.a., creating the buck, and then passing it)

     

    Available remedy? The av company could of course hire the staff to check/test the programs that they want to flag as harmful and offer some verification as to the harm being caused.

     

    When the av company states that our software is or contains a virus, they are making a public statement of criminal conduct and or actions by the person who created the software (you and me).

     

    We as developers do have a valid case and argument that it isn't likely any av compoany could effectively dispute... The only reason they can do this is because we have not come together and challenged them in court.

     

     

     

    Thoughts?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  10. Separate your work into defines. This helps keep your work area manageable as your bots get larger and larger.

     

    *note: have a bit of code you wrote and think you may need later but right now it is in the way? Put it in a define and then just don't call that define. This way it is handy to access, still fully in tact, and mostly out of the way.

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