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#1 whoami

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

Hello...

Ive been watching that many people stopped participating in this forums.

Is UBot dying?

 

 

Where is everybody?


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#2 bestmacros

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:42 AM

ubot nowadays is little bit outdated, so I guess not many new users are joining, also there are huge amount of answered questions already so no need to open new topics.

naked out-of-the box ubot is not usable on most popular websites because of internal browser.

http request automation using build-in commands is also problematic - you need external plugins for that.

based on the questions I see on forum - most of them are related to exbrowser, because this is almost a must plugin today especially if you need to automate the website, which is not supported by internal browser.

In my opinion the only thing, which may "resurrect" the ubot is the ability to do a mobile app automation which is also a must today for bot building.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:42 PM

Hi!

whoami:

Is UBot dying?

 
I'm cautiously optimistic UBot isn't dying. I genuinely like the tool, and what can be done with it. The challenge with software that conditions usage on username and password credentials being verified on an external server is that if the software vendor goes out of business or pulls the plug on the project, the availability of the external server can become jeopardized. To the extent the external server is offline and can no longer provide credential validation (or compilation services, as in the case for developer edition license holders), the entire ecosystem that has evolved around the tool will evaporate rather quickly. The same is true for this forum.

bestmacros:

ubot nowadays is little bit outdated, so I guess not many new users are joining


What would be considered a more up-to-date tool that new users might be choosing to use instead of UBot? (I'm mainly asking to get a better understanding of what tool you're referring to.)

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:22 PM

It would be good if Seth says his opinion. 



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:57 PM

What would be considered a more up-to-date tool that new users might be choosing to use instead of UBot? (I'm mainly asking to get a better understanding of what tool you're referring to.)

I'm not referring to any other tool, I just pointing to the fact that Ubot today is not so good, as it was before and this is one of the reasons it is "dying".

It is not good for the new users also, because you need to buy Ubot license (not cheap) and also buy several must have plugins (not cheap) and all this just to be able to automate some websites.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:51 AM

bestmacros:


It is not good for the new users also, because you need to buy Ubot license (not cheap) and also buy several must have plugins (not cheap) and all this just to be able to automate some websites.


Thanks for clarifying. In the ideal scenario, it sounds like the optimal outcome would be a UBot Studio that can automate all major popular websites (defined as perhaps the top 50 traffic-getting websites in the world), right out-of-the-box. No need for special plugins or third-party accessories.

You had previously mentioned ..."naked out-of-the box ubot is not usable on most popular websites because of internal browser"... which got me thinking. I'm very much still a UBot "newbie" in the sense that I don't know everything about the tool. If, for example, the UBot internal browser (currently Chrome 49 at the time I'm writing this, if I'm not mistaken), were updated to Chrome 67 (which happens to currently be the so-called 'stable' release), would that solve the problem?

If so, I wonder if an immediate work-around would be to use the 'set header' command to essentially spoof the user agent? For example:
 
navigate("http://www.ipchicken.com","Wait") 
comment("This will mention Chrome 49 in the 'browser' portion of the website.")
wait(5)
set header("User-Agent","Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/67.0.3396.87 Safari/537.36")
navigate("http://www.ipchicken.com","Wait")
comment("Now the 'browser' section mentions Chrome 67.")
You had also previously mentioned ..."http request automation using build-in commands is also problematic - you need external plugins for that"... which I have to admit, I don't have the technical understanding to comprehend. Help me understand what that means, if you wouldn't mind. I just want to better understand some of this terminology. Or better yet, what UBot plugin solves this problem? I can then read more about the problem and the solution on the plugin website.

. . .

More broadly speaking, I find myself increasingly using UBot Studio as a versatile general purpose programming language with the ability to create standalone EXE files.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:10 AM

were updated to Chrome 67 (which happens to currently be the so-called 'stable' release), would that solve the problem?

If so, I wonder if an immediate work-around would be to use the 'set header' command to essentially spoof the user agent? For example:
 

I don't have chrome 67 update so I don't know if it solve the issue or not.
Set header or set user-agent will not help because it only mask the ubot original internal browser useragent but it does not add required functionality.
it is like putting Mercedes logo on Citroen car - it will not make the Citroen to work like Mercedes - it just make it look like Mercedes


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 02:23 AM

Ubot compiled bot takes SO LONG to load. at the first run, it downloads around 200 MB of files for just the browser folder if I recall.

 

What would be considered a more up-to-date tool that new users might be choosing to use instead of UBot? (I'm mainly asking to get a better understanding of what tool you're referring to.)

So, not a tool but a feature: One of the most-wanted features is the ability to choose to detach the ubot browser when compiling the bot.

 

The support staff answers tickets on time, (actually I helped them more than they do, the last time!!) I just have no idea why they don't join their own forum (!) and talk to members? talking about upcoming updates and stuff. checking the tracker page you will see unsolved issues from years ago.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:11 AM

So you have access to my account and you know when I am helping others?  Wow!  Thanks!

 

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:09 PM

So you have access to my account and you know when I am helping others?  Wow!  Thanks!

 

Buddy

Have you updated your "notes"!? now you have a couple of new things to tell users to try.

 

Now talk to us about what everyone would like to know. updates, bugfixes, new features, ETAs of them?



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:11 AM

 

Hello...

Ive been watching that many people stopped participating in this forums.

Is UBot dying?

 

 

128 users are online (in the past 15 minutes)

 

 

Maybe they are not participating actively but still reading - lurking?

 

Or are these numbers for bots .. or misleading?


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